He is very clearly interested in the fact that she is young, that she is a schoolgirl, and also that she is very clever. [8] Scientists successfully retrieved a DNA profile from this stain. In mid 2007, I had extensive contact with Detective Constable Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police. There were whispers that it was her stepfather that did it, although I believe John Drinkwater was her blood father. Talk about a case hitting close to home for you! Detective Chief Inspector Mark Lewis, head of the South Wales Polices Specialist Crime Review Unit announced to the press in May 2019: The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Norah Irene Bartlett. Are you able to tell me if her father has been cleared via DNA profiling?. . Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. Another witness came forward to tell the team that Ronnie Harries had worked on a farm in Penllergaer, evidence that was supported from a newspaper cutting at the time. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive home, she was murdered. Your work keeps this case alive and I hope it will one day reveal the true identity of Muriels killer. Muriel Drinkwater was laying on her back, one arm outstretched by her side and the other slightly raised. 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She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive home she was murdered. [8] A description of a person of interest was circulated; he was described as approximately 30 years old, with "thick fluffy hair and wearing brown corduroy trousers and a light brown sports jacket. "The farm was a painful place for my grandparents to be," said Martin, who still keeps a little battleship toy that Muriel had given him. Another wait and see. Interesting insights! She was beaten, raped and shot twice just yards from her family's isolated farmhouse in 1946. Roll on another 2 months for a denied request. VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED. Wife of James Anthony Drinkwater and mother to Carole Suzanne, Stephen Mark, Simon Anthony and Russell John Drinkwater. More recently, however, it was tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. They had been regular churchgoers, but stopped going to church and moved away from the farm within two years of the murder. She was sexually assaulted and strangled and last seen with an American soldier. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample . [11] Hoyles, who saw Drinkwater after buying eggs at her parents' farm, was cleared by the DNA evidence. I am leaning towards it being a targeted attack, in part because of the positioning of the perpetrator as you mentioned. They also announced in May 2019 that Abertillery double child killer Harold Jones had also been cleared of Muriels murder. Psychic Diane Lazarus Investigates Muriel Drinkwater Murder - YouTube 0:00 / 21:56 Sign in to confirm your age This video may be inappropriate for some users. Perhaps one day then there'll still be justice for Muriel Drinkwater - even if it might have to stretch beyond the grave. But the mystery doesn't end there and the team want to unlock the mystery behind a book belonging to Muriel that turned up in a charity shop decades after her death. Swansea 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater, who was shot after being sexually assaulted in 1946 Now, a team of former detectives and crime experts have re-investigated the case, dubbed the 'Little. Video, 00:01:00One-minute World News, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. It was an article that said that Harries had worked for Muriel's father John at the time of her murder. Posted by 8 minutes ago. She was shot twice in the chest. This was a very small, close knit community and everybody knew everybody and everybodies business. [10], Police visited every house within 150 square miles and interviewed 20,000 men in Swansea and in neighbouring Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. I was made aware the following day that my request would NOT be granted. Mr Hall, who was intrigued by the unsolved crime, says friends of Muriel remember her as the ``perfect pupil''. Holly Ann Campiglia was a Jane Doe until she was identified in 1992. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater 's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. In 2007 whilst researching for my 2008 True Crime book Every Mothers Nightmare Abertillery in Mourning, which dealt with the murders of two Abertillery school-girls in 1921, I received a surprise visit from Victor Penaluna, a cousin of the second Abertillery victim Florence Little aged 11. Video, 00:01:18, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. Hi Neil. DNA was found on evidence & matched a man already in prison. She had been raped, bludgeoned about the head and shot twice in the chest. My enquiries are now complete and have led me to believe that Harold Jones would have presented a danger to young girls throughout his life All relevant information has now been presented to South Wales Police, Major Crime Review Unit,who are currently in the process of making further inquiries into the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Regards. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. I live on the land of penllergaer woods and I have some information that I think u would like to hear.. how can I get in contact with u to chat.? Your email address will not be published. "That sounds pompous, but I knew that really he was a simpleton, but I didn't detect any menace in him.". Harries was hanged in 1954 for the double murder of John and Phoebe Harries. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the 12-year-old had been killed amongst the undergrowth at Penllergaer Woods whilst on her way home from school one June afternoon. I then appealed that decision and was shocked to be told that the information I requested had been eaten by vermin or had been damaged owing to a leaking roof. Muriel Drinkwater - Swansea, 1946 On 27th June 1946, Margaret Drinkwater was making tea in the family farm house in Penllegaer near Swansea when she looked out of the window to see her daughter . Muriel was seen at 2:30PM, singing as she exited the school bus. First, I was told that South Wales Police werent obliged to say. I would like to request an internal review of (an adverse) decision made by South Wales Police regarding information I requested on 28-6-21. Unless he bludgeoned first then he raped, this would have caught her by surprise. Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. I had informed him that Harold Jones had been living incognito in various West London locations after his release from prison in 1941. He agreed to give a DNA sample that could rule out Muriel's father from the investigation. Video, 00:02:36Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Two days later, police found one of the murder weapons, a World War I-era Colt .45 pistol. All the best with pursuing answers in this case, and please keep us updated. Nevertheless, local legend tells of how, after leaving prison, he'd return to his parents' house in Abertillery from time to time, where the sound of him playing the organ in their front room would haunt the terraced streets. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. Some time after speaking to D.S Lloyd-Evans, D.N.A. 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On the back of the coat, a no-longer-visible semen stain was circled with yellow crayon. Neil Milkins. And no idea and Japanese workers. The crime scene is a short distance from the farmhouse. Follow. Arrested once again, Jones this time pleaded guilty to the charge of murder at aMonmouthcourt in November 1921. Sometimes the rumours and suspicion in these unsolved cases does almost as much damage to the community as the crime itself. It was the 75th anniversary this year, and still we are no nearer to finding her killer. As you know it is not possible to prove whether Harold Jones was Muriels killer by D.N.A testing Jones daughter. I am in regular contact with a niece of Muriel Drinkwater who has told me that members of her family gave South Wales Police samples of their D.N.A.. Then for 3 years he was registered at Colinette Road Putney as Harry Stevens. Paul.. Muriels niece Margaret is desperate to get the books back. To see documentary google Dark Lands Muriel Drinkwater iplayer. 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Just a few thoughts, so we can deduce its a man, not too young to be weaker than Muriel, not to old because they would be frail, so we are saying middle aged man in 1946. And please do not forget tosubscribe to the podcast and leave us a review. Her parents Harold and Muriel Jones/Stevens kept a lot of secrets from this daughter one of which may be that she wasnt Harolds daughter. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. [4] In 2019, the DNA was used to rule out notorious Welsh murderer Harold Jones as a suspect. The team tracked down Harries' cousin Lynn Hughes who described how the only child had been "spoilt" by his parents and was very "childish". Also, as I understand matters, members of Muriels family have given DNA samples to ascertain whether Muriels father may have killed her. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? D.S. On 29 August 2021, I sent the following email to Freedom Of Information at South Wales Police. Muriel was seen at 2:30PM, singing as she exited the school bus. South Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has today finally ruled out Jones - who died from cancer in 1971 - from their investigation. to have gone on to kill six women in London in the 1960s - and was dubbed Jack The Stripper. Thank you for all your assistance in this matter, the information you have provided has proved to be very helpful. This means that we may include adverts from us and third parties based on our knowledge of you. So with that revelation the re-opened inquiry could have cost 15 million or more as did the Gwent Police inquiry into the disgraced former Abertillery care home owner Dr Dana Pras. She was hoping in her lifetime to find out who killed her aunt. Now, a team of former detectives and crime experts have re-investigated the case, dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', and have uncovered a new prime suspect. Officers are now examining a semen stain on Muriel's coat to see if it can be linked to Jones. "I was about nine at the time and he was about twice my age, but I felt, at nine, that I was his intellectual superior," he said. Fifteen days later, Jones murdered 11-year-old neighbour Florence Little too, hiding her body in the attic of his parents' home. The Little Red Riding Hood murder of Muriel Drinkwater. I received the following letter from D.C. Paul Rogers on 6 December 2007. Hi Sherlock. Video, 00:00:36, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. I am not a DNA scientist so sadly I cannot answer this question for you. South Wales Police said: "All historic murder cases, often referred to in the media as cold cases, are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. Is it possible that scientists could examine Muriels coat and find another profile that could be compared to Jones daughters D.N.A.? Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. Its amazing the documentary could screw things up so much. Only by comparing D.N.A. http://www.tcbmediarights.com/screeners/dark_son.html. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. However, the BBC documentary Darklands shown in November 2020 identified Ronald Harries who murdered his aunt and uncle as Muriels killer, and a cousin of Harries was shown in the documentary and was expected to give DNA to prove or disprove the theory.. [5], Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret (ne Morgans) Drinkwater. Her name was written in copper plate, Muriel J Drinkwater, and they were examined by the forensic expert who did some incredible work for us, and was able to find this full crime stain on the back of Muriel's little school mac. She was was found murdered in 1980 in a field in Dixon, CA. Wales documentary screened at 10.30pm on Sunday 8 November 2020 spent a full 5 minutes suggesting that 2 books found in a Carmarthen bookshop recently had been taken from Muriels schoolbag in 1946 as trophies by the killer. Update: I have left it two weeks for the . Her murder became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect . Interesting case Christine. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the. I hope Margaret gets the answers she deserves sooner rather than later. The D.N.A. A team of crime experts have re-investigated the brutal killing 74 years ago and uncovered what they believe to be firm new leads in the search for who killed her, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. However, in 2008, a team of retired detectives investigating cold cases found Drinkwater's clothes in storage. DNA was taken from the relatives of both Muriel and Ronnie Harries but the results have not been made public. Thanks again! The police have a Y-STR profile from Muriels coat. This will conclude a 10 year wait to see if Jones was indeed Muriels killer. This post deals with sexual assault and might be triggering for some readers. "[14][5], In 2020, the BBC One documentary Dark Land: Hunting the Killers suggested that Ronnie Harries could be the murderer. In a Welsh village during the summer of 1946, a 12-year-old girl is brutally murdered. Jones and his wife Muriel hid a lot of secrets from their daughter and one of these secrets may have been Jones wasnt her father. There is little doubt that Muriels murderer was lying in wait, just counting the minutes until he could commit his heinous crime. This was no spur of the moment event. Also, it was near a Japanese plantation and the workers may have possibly assaulted her and the cigarette butts, bread and sweet wrappers may have come from the plantation. Read about our approach to external linking. More here: https://bit.ly/WoodlawnJaneDoe. Born in the summer of 1933, she was the youngest of four children and lived with her parents Percy and Margaret on a small farm called Tyle-Du, near Like you I hope there is justice one day for Muriel but sadly as more and more time passes I worry that becomes less likely. Trump rages at Mark Zuckerberg amid claims group linked to Facebook boss gave $2 million to Georgia elections board - and says Dems are 'trying to steal a SECOND election'. "I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. "It does make you think that Muriel Drinkwater (who passed her 11-Plus to get into grammar school) is the sort of girl he would have been interested in. Her blue coat, underwear and school uniform had been wrapped in a paper bag and stored. After a previous visit to the Drinkwater family farm, Hoyles was surprised when a man in his thirties withthick fluffy hair and wearing brown corduroy trousers and a light brown sports jacket stepped from the bushes at exactly the same location where Muriel was later ambushed. It was believed the victim's clothes had been lost. The hardest part then was actually finding the materials," he told the documentary. But he was later released and served in World War II before his military career ended in 1946. Read about our approach to external linking. He must have known she was near home because she waved and if we are saying this was a planned attack he wouldve studied Muriels routine, studied her route, he was near where her route went, that is a very specific route to go in and out the forest, and with balance of probability he therefore must have known Muriel and her family business to cripple the mother to cripple the business. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. Just put my name in Facebook bar. Murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946 is being probed 73 years later Police thought a stain on Muriel's coat would link death to Harold Jones But they have now confirmed a test. 'Each case is reviewed periodically. A 73-year-old sample semen has conclusively disproved the theory Harold Jones was the killer of 12-year-old schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. 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Dear Sir/Madam. Her mother was in the kitchen and . Vote. The killer was dubbed Jack The Stripper because of the way he left his victims. Hoyles lamented, For years, Ive lived with the knowledge that some people in the community suspected me. Thank you for sharing this detailed update on Muriels case with the community. This true crime happened in Penllegaer Woods on the outskirts of Swansea in 1946. The comments below have not been moderated. Martin well remembers a young girl who was "always full of life" and would always be skipping and singing. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest one in the world to . "Looking through the paper work, we could see the materials had left the crime scene, where it had gone, where it had been examined. There were soldiers still in the area after the war and they used to train in Penllergaer woods. Muriel Drinkwater was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea, Serial killer Harold Jones (pictured as a 15-year-old) killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. On 30 March 2010 the Times Online quoted an unnamed police source with South Wales Police as saying: We have a real problem with amateur sleuths in this area. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample in the world to be successfully extracted in a murder investigation. I think it will be at least 3 months before anything definite will be announced. Muriel Drinkwater lived on a farm known at Tyle-Du at Penllergaer and attended Penllergaer Grammar School. Up Next. 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Muriel, who lived on Tyle-Du farm at Penllergaer, near Swansea, went missing on Thursday, June 27th, 1946, and her body was found next day in Penllergaer woods. But when they tested a stain on Muriel's coat it did not come up with a link to child murderer Harold Jones - who is also suspected of being a serial killer dubbed Jack the Stripper. Jones was released from prison in December of 1941, so he was a free man when Muriel was killed. Hi Neil. 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